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There is nothing after life. I don't believe in God. You just die. Life is a one time deal. Do what you want. Live like no one is watching. Don't waste your time with feelings of guilt or depression. One day you won't feel anything anymore. Life is totally worth living, and only you can make you happy.

amen!

I'm getting older, pushing 60, and I am certainly not suffering. In fact, I'm having the time of my life! No one knows what happens after we die, but if you live life in a generous, loving way, then you don't have to worry about what happens after death. If there is something, and you follow the rule of "An it harm none, do what thou wilt," not only will you enjoy life more, you won't have to worry about hell or coming back as a cockroach.

nothing after life? Nothing at all?........ So my son is just in the ground then? He lived and fought for 10 mins after he was born, and thats it? That was his whole life? No reward? No heaven?

Thats hard to understand and difficult to cope with

yes. death is death. Of course its hard to understand and hope with, but thats all there is. God and heaven are an easy explanation for those who cannot deal with the truth. It'd make you happy to know that it was the plan, it was meant to be, he's somewhere else and all that jazz -- but he's not. I'm sorry. Thats the way it is.

gee. thanks for that. BUT

Can you prove that? I cannot prove that he is up there being looked after by god or whoever.... but just the thought that he could be makes it a bit easier to accept.

On the other hand..... how can there be a god? What type of god takes babies from their moms? And all this crap about him being in a better place.... what better place is there for a baby than in his mothers arms?

If there is a god he would have heard my prayers on the day Andrew died and ignored them.

This god wants me to continue to pray to him? to have faith in him? Is he feking joking???

who knows?? who knows if there is actually a god watching over us, if we are actually transported somewhere else after death...science is always growing, never knowing all the answers....every day something new is discovered. so, we can't really be sure that being dead is just being nothing, a corpse or ashes or whatever. maybe there is something else. but, if there is a god -- i will say the cliche: maybe you lost your son for a reason. i don't know what it is but maybe some day you will discover the reason. i don't know you, i don't know your story -- but perhaps he died for a reason. maybe to make you appreciate life more? maybe to appreciate your other children's lives (if you have other children) -- or to appreciate the lives of the children that you will have?

Oh, "God" decided to kill Hellen's son so she could learn something? Nice "God" you've got there. That's why I've ignored him for so many years. This the god that demanded of Moses that HE would be this world's god and that all other gods should be abandoned. Not only that, we're instructed to worship this cruel, demanding god. Screw him.

couldn't have said it better myself.

Some days the memory of my son brings me to my knees, it cripples me to the point where i can't function, can't think of anything else other than this tiny little baby in my arms fighting to take his first and only breath. And i am powerless to help him.

God? He gave me the ability to be a mother, made me fertile (according to the bible nature and biology had nothing to do with this, it was all gods doing)
God then took that tiny life away before he had even had a chance at life. He never saw his mother, never looked into my eyes, I'm somewhat thankful for that as he never saw my tears and panic.

People die all time, it is a part of life yes? Sometimes people die in cruel, random ways yes? But why let a baby be born and then take him only allowing him 10 mins of life? What was the point in that?

I'm supposed to have learned something from this?

I do have other children yes, they have learned from it. Want to know what?.......

Hannah my almost 5 year old was playing with catalogues yesterday. She had a yellow pages and was flicking through pretending to call someone. She punched in a few numbers on her toy phone and this was the 'conversation' she had on her phone:

Hello, someone has died.
Could you come and bury them for me?
We don't need a small coffin this time, we want a big one.
How much will it be? Twenty ninety pounds is ok.

almost 5. :(

I'm sorry for the loss of your son. If there was a lesson to be learned, IMO, it is that IF there is a god, he's a heartless bastard, wholly undeserving of our attention.

The first commandment states "I am the Lord THY god, thou shall have have NO OTHER GODS before ME." Just ignore him. Choose another god or goddess to follow, one that doesn't demand worship and fear, one that doesn't "test" you to prove your adoration. Choose the gods and goddesses who work with you and don't punish you, who share their divinity with you. The divinity is within you and me and all living creatures. Just because a minor god says that you are to follow him and only him doesn't mean you have to. Break the ties that bind you to a patriarchal, demanding, egotistical and punishing god. Open your mind to everything else that's out there. The freedom, peace and serenity will astound you. Just stick to the rule of "An it harm none (including yourself), do what thou wilt" and you'll be fine.

hellen, Andrew is sitting right here smoking a blunt and enjoying the baby Einstein dvd's. He says not to worry about him, he's cool. He loved the short time he had with you and he thanks you for keeping his memory alive. He also says to keep an eye on your uterus, as he will be ready for summer camp in a few more years.

Yours eternally,
God

LC, that was incredibly rude.

BTW, commenter "God"---go to hell! And not just for a vacation...

luckily, God you twat, i've become immune to the type of comments that you find funny.

I wish you could feel my pain. but i hope you never have to.

Hellen is a whiny brat who wants everything to be easy and painless. She's just looking for someone to be angry at, rather than accept the fact that people actually die all the time. God forbid she have to feel pain. Pun intended. No, she is special and therefore nothing bad should ever happen to her. Shame on you God, for thinking that you can have things happen for bigger reasons than Hellen's whiny ass.

She isn't whining, you callous, insnensitive jerk. Losing a child is devastating. YOU try carryng a living, growing being inside of you, looking forward to having a child that is loved and wanted for the better part of a year, and then have that child die 10 minutes later. Then we'll be very, very interested in what you have to say, you cruel bastard.

Her pain is still no more significant than mine.

Sez you. Until you walk a mile in someone else'd shoes, you do not have a clue.

Eat your own words.

Enough, anyone ever heard the term "Godless fools"? I never heard anyone say "Godless genius", have you? OP, you're asking if life is worth living and you want proof. You gotta grow up and take risks with your life or death, either way it's going to be a risk, and you'll never know the outcome. And if you're going to take a risk at all, do you really want to go it alone and believe that there is no God? If you do you'll find yourself very scared and alone no matter how you look at it or what you do, which is why I say life is worth living as long as you are not completely selfish. And the only way I can prove it is to have you look into your own heart and ask yourself, are there things you don't know and are there things in life beyond your control? To refuse to believe in God is to be selfish and yes I said it, ignorant. To believe there is no God is to believe you know all and see all, To have faith in God means believing in something you don't understand or can't control, and to hellen, with all due respect, I'm not quite sure what your point is other than to express anger. Sounds like you have enough anger to live 10 lifetimes. And again, with all due respect, I don't really see how you have any business trying to give advice to anyone in this point of your life, I strongly suggest that if you have time to blog, then you should also spend some time searching grief counseling as this would benefit you more. I understand your pain, but what are you trying to do, run us all off a cliff because you're angry and in pain. Do you really think you will never laugh again or is it that you have to have everything your way? The term "Godless fools" refers to selfishness. Faith refers to giving. So, OP, if you're just a selfish person, then I doubt life will be worth living for you, but if you're willing to give and live with giving up things that are precious to you and allow yourself to risk new possiblities, you'll find life will have more to offer you. Ever heard the expression "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger". Why do you think they say that? Maybe hellen needs to learn something, what do you think?

Hellen is just fine. Those of you who tell her that she was meant to learn something from the death of her child are playing God, yourselves. You think you are the ones who are all-knowing.

Sometimes, bad things just happen. Period. They don't have a lesson attached to them.

LC-Thank God, we got a "in-house psychic" here. Everybody quick get your pencils ready, we are going to win the Lottery tonight.
How the heck could you possibly know whether or not someone will learn something from their experience, we learn things every day whether the experience is good or bad.
Sometimes bad things just happen? The only image that comes to mind is someone hitting themselves on their head with a hammer and saying "Whoa dude, bad things just happen". Maybe you should take time to read my above comment again and I'll repeat just for you that life is a daily process of taking risks and learning with or without God (I prefer with God), we learn whether we like it or not and whether it's good or bad, but if you wish to go on hitting your head with a hammer, I'll be more than happy to watch, I find myself fascinated and amused when people don't believe there is anything to learn, and by the way hellen is having a normal reaction, but she is not fine. She is going through the grieving process and it will take a long time for her to come to terms with what happened and maybe years later before she realizes why she needed to go through what she did.
Now, could you give me that winning Lottery number please?

What I meant by "hellen is just fine" was that she doesn't have to look for a lesson in losing her child. Of course I understand that she is grieving; I'm just really pissed at the fools who are being so rude and inconsiderate, and implying that she somehow deserved to lose her child so she could be taught a lesson.

When I say that sometimes, bad things just happen, I mean just that. Shit happens. That does not make me "psychic," nor do I claim to be so. Everything does NOT happen "for a reason." If you think everything happens "for a reason," perhaps it is YOU who is claiming to be psychic. I don't have to hit myself on the head with a hammer and claim that a bad thing is happening; I need only to watch the news and see the devastation caused by floods, cyclones, hurricanes, earthquakes and wildfires. Unless you believe that every single person who dies, is injured, or suffers because of these events, then it's apparent that sometimes bad things just happen.

Hell, no, I won't give you that winning lottery number. I'm keeping that big jackpot all for myself. Hey, sometimes GOOD things "just happen."

Would someone give me a hammer, please?

Oops---"Unless you believe that every single person who dies, is injured, or suffers because of these events needed to be taught a lesson, then it's apparent that sometimes bad things just happen."

I believe I understand your point of view or more to the point that You believe your point of view. However, I would suggest you consider the following as long as you do not believe in God, then you can make up your own rules and put “shit happens” on the back of your bumper (I hope you really don't have that on your bumper, but if you do, God bless you). But if you believe there is a God, then you can't make a statement which almost appears scientific and all knowing by saying "everything does not happen for a reason", your statement alone implies that I'm either blogging to God or just to someone who doesn't want to accept the fact that there are so many possibilities in a person's average daily life that it boggles the mind. “Shit happens” is supposed to be a joke and a way of excusing the fact that you or someone f#*ks up, which is why I suggest you are a psychic because how do you really know “shit happens”, can you really prove it?
Look, I am not writing this to go 3 rounds with you and I can't stop you from hitting your head with a hammer, although I would still like to watch. But hellen is obviously having a tough time of dealing with her tragedy and trauma and the last thing she needs to hear is "shit happens" that really make it easy, doesn't it? Don't take this personally but making something simple doesn't make it real. The truth is she suffers a very complicated situation and it supposed to be complicated. She supposed to not to have it easy, none of us are. But hey, what do I know. Let's just pop a couple of beers and go fishing and let the little womens takes care of themselves. There is a place for "shit happens" and I personally don't believe this is the place for it. But you are welcome to have your own opinion and hammer if it will help to solve hellen's problem.
I do understand your point about you're being mad about people thinking that she deserves to lose her child, but consider this, if you live your whole life without pain as apparently you do on top of your head :), you wouldn't be worth of damn because you wouldn't have learned much, would you? And I can't help with thinking of your mentality of "shit happens" as I'm sure you would hate your mother saying that, while giving birth to you or for that matter, holding you 10 min then losing you. But, hey, that just my opinion, by the way, would you like your hammer back because I feel like I've been hitting my head with it. Try to consider another point of view and I'm sure we would both feel better if you just give me that winning lottery number. Don't get me wrong, for you the universe may be a very simple concept rolled into two famous words and if you don't win a lottery ticket you might try writing a book. Did I just say that? Well you know….Shit Happens. :)

Oh, by the way, not to sound like a know it all, but to address your point about natural disasters. The truth is no matter of far back in time you go, humans and animals as well learn from natural disasters, I don’t think cave men while hitting their heads with stones watched the rain come down and flood everything as they stood there waiting for the water to go over their heads while speaking the first known language on earth repeating the words “Shit Happens UGGH”.

LMAO good one, Lc!

I understand and respect your point of view. In no way are ALL of my comments directed at hellen's tragedy. I feel so bad for her, I really do. We've just wandered off on a tangent here that has little to do with hellen's situation.

Please note that I said SOMETIMES bad things just happen for no good reason. I do try to look for the lesson, but I believe that sometimes there just isn't one. You may argue that just because I don't see the lesson, there isn't one, and I would agree with you.

hellen, my "opponent" and I both, I am sure, are very sorry for your loss. Don't let our tangential discussion make you think otherwise.

That being said, let's both put that hammer away. And playing the lottery is for suckers, anyway.

hellen, what LC said goes for me too,the idea was to have a healthy interesting disscusion that would help some of the confusion that you are experencing,I've been through some traumatic events myself and when it happens it never makes any sense,then you try to get by day to day, some days good some days bad, survival is key, give yourself a chance, give yourself time and don't try to do it alone. You won't forget, but you will learn to cope with it better. Check out P.T.S. online and you'll probably identify with what you are experencing. God Bless.

LC, Were not opponents what we had was a healthy discussion and your points really made me think before responding, That's what it's all about, expressing your opinions and testing them with the public, it strengthens you. A lot of people blog and run and you stood fast, I respect that, look forward to running into you again sometime:).

That's why I put "opponent" in quotation marks. Thank you for telling me that my points made you think. I look forward to debating (or agreeing) with you again.

Blessed be.

i've sort of already come to terms with everything :)

Someone told me something that gave me instant peace. Yes i do have days where i'm full of questions and bitterness but on the whole i try to remember what my friend told me....

It's not about looking for answers, it's about learning to live with the questions

Bless you, hellen.

She sneezed?

Life goes on or it doesn't. Are we all predestined? Maybe all thats happened to each and every one of us was meant to happen. Maybe, purposely, our lives are composed of happenings, the options open to us and the choices that we make every day. We learn to live well or not. I've heard when we 'die', we pass into another plane of existence. As one door closes, so another opens. I don't think we're here for nothing. I choose to think we're not here for nothing.

Deep